Fri
Feb 8 2008
09:36 am

Woke up to headlines from Missouri about a citizen storming the city council meeting; shooting and killing at least 3 council members. Also killed were 2 police officers and the public works official. Others were injured and the shooter was killed by police. In looking at the comments of people who obviously knew this man, it makes me wonder if this tragedy could have been adverted by a willingness for both sides to sit down, talk and compromise.

This Mr. Thorton appeared to seek a legal solution he could live with by appealing to the courts. He obviously had been to several council meetings to communicate his needs. Makes me wonder what it was that was so important to him. In the articles the word "harrassment" and "rights" were used frequently and it was noted the city had cited him 150 times. This had been ongoing issue for nearly 2 years.

In this day where personal freedoms seem under attack and where government, locally or nationally, continually threaten to restrict personal freedoms, it makes me ask myself what the breaking point is for each of us. In the comments section by local citizens, they suggest the council was on a "power trip" with the power and control to selectively enforce ordinances that directly impacted Mr. Thorton's ability to do business. Other citizens echoed these same comments and added "control and arrogance by the city council" in their posts. I'm sure more details will be coming out in the days ahead. I feel this tragedy could be an example in human frustration, anger and arrogance. It could be an example of undue hardship enacted by oppressive and poorly thought out laws. Perhaps most is an example of one human's cry for help, although it was done in an UNACCEPTABLE MANNER. I think all councils and law making bodies need to be aware of the effects ordinances will have on citizens. Laws affect people...laws change lives and as shown by Mr. Thorton, laws can determine life or death.

It's all so tragic and unnecessary...

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This is a horrible incident

This is a horrible incident and definitely an unacceptable manner in which to handle differences.

You do feel at a loss many times when dealing with government entities, whether local, state or federal.

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I don't excuse a shooter for any reason. That recourse should not be an option.

Having said that, watch and see if someone doesn't say that this shows that more people should be carrying weapons.

A Sad Situation

"I think all councils and law making bodies need to be aware of the effects ordinances will have on citizens. Laws affect people...laws change lives and as shown by Mr. Thorton, laws can determine life or death.

It's all so tragic and unnecessary..."

Tragic and unnecessary... indeed it is. Yet I must ask the question: How does a legislative body foresee how what it may reasonably do might trigger a deadly reaction in a seemingly normal person who is actually teetering on the brink of a psychotic break?

Laws can determine life and death, to be sure.

And I have no idea personally whether the City Council in this case was being arrogant, silly, mean-spirited, or simply failed to have the ability to see into the future with the same 20-20 vision with which we can all so readily see into the past. Once such a legislative body has put their good faith effort into an ordinance, done their homework, and passed an ordinance, they've done all they can do. Unless they should become paralyzed by fear, being afraid to do anything lest some hair-trigger personality come unglued and come a-gunning for those that "done him wrong."

There's no such thing as a perfect law, and there's no such thing as a law that won't piss off SOMEbody.

We can become paralyzed as a society if we put fear of such an event in such a paramount position that we refuse to act (or enact) because of it. Such paralysis by fear also adds fuel to the fires of thought that seek to blame someone else (ANYbody else!) so that an individual can elude responsibility and the consequences of his/her own actions, actions taken by his/her own decisions to act.

RB

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