Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 10, 2009 - 5:17pm.

I have settled on the analogy that Roane County, Tennessee has taken a bullet for everyone who wants to end the mining and burning of coal.

The "clean coal" campaign was always more PR than reality — currently there's no economical way to capture and sequester carbon emissions from coal, and many experts doubt there ever will be.

The article contains a flood of inaccuracies. it even claims most of Kingston in now uninhabitable. This will come as a shock to most of us. I suggest TIME Magazine be added to the lawsuits, for libel in this case.


Any settlement needs to include a planned phase out of coal as an energy source. It ain't "clean" and it ain't "cheap". Think we have it bad? This is nothiing compared to what happens at the other end of the coal cycle...The mining of it.

Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 9, 2009 - 9:07pm.

Inhofe listened to testimony from everybody who paid him and then left:

After listening to about 30 minutes of testimony from TVA CEO Kilgore, Sen. Inhofe then strode out of the committee hearing, before hearing any testimony from the "environmental extremist."

Inhofe, who has claimed that "environmental extremists exploit the [global warming] issue for fundraising purposes, raking in millions of dollars" has taken over $400,000 in campaign contributions from the oil and gas industry since 2003, and over $218,000 from electrical utilities since 2003, according to


Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 9, 2009 - 9:04pm.

This attorney has a track record of going up against polluters on behalf of people who have been harmed.


Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 9, 2009 - 2:18pm.

This one looks like it should legitimately called a "leak". I'm still having trouble looking at the monstrous mess outside and callint it a "spill" but I haven't got a better name just yet.



Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 9, 2009 - 10:47am.

Walt Kelly illustrated the poster for the first Earth Day. Pogo's famous line never fit a situation better than ours.

Walt Kelley, where are you now that we really need you?

Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 9, 2009 - 8:42am.

Critical thinkers will note the absurdity of the headline:

Experts to residents: Fly ash more of a nuisance than hazard


Pretty much states that Coal Ash is hazardous waste, doesn't it? And the American Coal Ash Association? Boy, THERE'S a group I trust with my life.

Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 9, 2009 - 7:51am.

Kilgore Senate testimony:

The ash material is not classified as a hazardous waste under the standards of the Environmental Protection Agency.

Well, sure, but that's because the Coal Industry lobbied their wallets off to stymie the classification by the Bush EPA, which was readied to issue such rules under Clinton. Had Gore been recognized as President in 2000, I have to ask the question: Would this have been prevented?

Kilgore's full testimony is here. It makes interesting reading

Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 9, 2009 - 7:17am.

True TV will air part of the Houston Trial starting today. Geez!


Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 9, 2009 - 7:14am.

From our "Does Anybody Out There Get It?" (yesterday in the Senate.)

Corker also said that oversight needs to be examined because the current regulation of coal ash depends on state authorities. Corker said he asked Stephen Johnson, administrator of the US Environmental Protection Agency, to stay on the site until it is safe.

And Wamp says it's nobody's fault:

"I think it's time for the federal government to look at this as more of a disaster like Katrina, as opposed to malfeasance by anyone or neglect by anyone," said Wamp.


Submitted by RoaneBooster on January 8, 2009 - 10:13am.

... how about all levels of government and petroleum usage?

1) We reduce usage of gasoline and diesel because of prices and numerous other factors (but mainly because it hurts so much to buy it).


Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 8, 2009 - 10:12am.

Although not unusual for the season, the Emory River hit a record high level for the date yesterday. According to the graphs, flow hit 25,000 cfs.

The previous record high was 19,100 Cubic Feet per Second. For comparison, the Ocoee typically runs around 1,200 CFS during rafting season. From the graph of the river flow measured at Oakdale (still above some of the smaller tributaries like Clifty Creek but a good indicator for the spill location)

Questions will have to be answered about how much sludge got past the new weir. A certain amount has to be expected.

Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 8, 2009 - 9:45am.

(Originally posted by Randy Martens)
He sent me this rather lenghty account of the events regarding the Belle. Please take a loook at it.

To Whom It May Concern:
I received a note from a friend in which he expressed the opinion that last night’s show by Troy and Jane was a preplanned ambush. I hadn’t thought of it that way, but upon reflection it makes sense. Here’s why:


Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 8, 2009 - 8:20am.

And I'm guessing the total bill will be in the Hundreds of millions of dollars, not Tens like this story says:

TVA's ratepayers will be saddled with the cost to clean up a massive coal ash slide at an East Tennessee power plant, the agency's chairman said.

The tab, likely to be tens of millions of dollars or more, will include the cost of extra workers, overtime pay, heavy machinery, and housing and supplies for families chased from their homes, along with the lawsuits that have begun to pile up.

When I drive by those workers and some of them are just standing around, I want to roll down the window and yell at them to get busy.


Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 8, 2009 - 8:05am.

Laws have unintended consequences and a new law intended to protect children from lead and pthalates requires that products be tested or assumed to be hazardous. The unintended consequence in this case is that it will shut down thrift stores and stores that sell handmade crafts because it is simply too expensive to test every single item. The problem with lead is primarily from foreign made toys and clothing.

Secondhand stores, antiques stores, and craft stores are about all we have for an economy tight now.


Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 8, 2009 - 7:30am.

The Roane County Commission will hold a PUBLIC HEARING with TVA on the Emory River Ash Spill on Monday, January 12, 2009 at 5:30 o'clock p.m. in the Criminal Courtroom on the 2nd floor of the Courthouse in Kingston.

This hearing will precede the regularly scheduled Public Hearing on Zoning which will be held in the Qualls Commission Room at 6:30 p.m. The regular monthly County Commission meeting will be at 7:00 p.m. in the Qualls Commission Room.

The Roane County Comment email address is:

Let us know what happens if anybody sends a comment.

Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 7, 2009 - 8:52pm.


Oh yeah...There's something about an Energy and Water Committee in there. Why would Lincoln want to be on Energy and Water what with the TVA Disaster about to come up before the Senate?

Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 7, 2009 - 3:38pm.

Courtesy of Randy at Link...

This just in, Knoxville law firm Ball & Scott, Hausfeld LLP in DC, and attorney Bruce Fox in Clinton have filed a class action today in U. S. District Court in Knoxville against TVA on behalf of riparian landowners on the Emory & Clinch Rivers under a private nuisance theory.

The action is similar to previous lawsuits against Pigeon River polluters Champion International and Blue Ridge Paper.

A copy of the actual filing is here:


Submitted by randmart on January 7, 2009 - 10:55am.

At Tuesday night's Kingston City Council Meeting, concerned citizens, the media and at least one TVA representative watched an attempted political assassination. It began when Council member Jane Devall suggested that Councilman Brant Williams, as a Kingston City Councilman had no right to talk with the press without the permission of the entire Council. Williams responded in no uncertain terms that he was entitled to the right of free speech, that he had not represented his views and concerns as those of the City, and would continue his efforts.


Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 7, 2009 - 8:51am.

The report was accurate all along, the results were misinterpreted. Here's what the EPA report stated:

The Tables 2, 3, and 4 contains summary analytical results for all EPA collected data, sorted by date. Each table includes the Federal Maximum Contaminant Levels (MCL) for comparative purposes. The MCLs represent the maximum permissible level of a contaminant in water delivered to any user of a public water system.

On December 23, 2008, the raw water collected from the river at the Kingston plant intake exceeded the MCL for thallium (0.002 mg/L) with a value of 0.00619 mg/L. None of the samples collected on December 29, 2008 exceeded the MCLs for any analyte. Analysis of the SESD data collected December 30, 2008 indicates that no analytes above the MCLs were detected in either finished or raw water at the three public plants. Similarly, no levels above the MCLs were noted in the residential wells.

The processed water sample taken at the same time showed no thallium above the MCL. We need to watch this stuff closely but let's not freak out unnecessarily. We have plenty to work on as it is.

More discussion at KnoxViews

Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 7, 2009 - 7:56am.

We'll see:

My message to those folks that night and to the people of Roane County is that TVA will clean up the spill. We will do it right, and we are focused on the job.


Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 7, 2009 - 7:49am.

Emotional music overplays the real questions posed in this video. Most of the lake scenes that were not shot at ground zero are still intact, particularly Sand Island. In fact someone was camped on Sand Island and had an American flag stuck up in the sand earlier this week.

(I am moving the video hoping that the spacing on the front page will restore itself. Look for it in the comments. If that doesn't work, I'll post a link )

Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 7, 2009 - 7:27am.

Any fine or punative damages would simply be passed along to rate payers. In a way, that is just, since rate payers have enjoyed power free of the true costs of producing it with coal.

Corker Offers questions but not answers, so far...

Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 6, 2009 - 3:59pm.

An Outreach Center is opening Tuesday, January 6, at 509 North Kentucky Street in Kingston. The center will be open the first week Tuesday through Saturday from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. and 1 p.m. to 7 p.m. on Sunday. The local phone number for the Outreach Center is (865) 632-1700.

From the TVA Website Link...

Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 6, 2009 - 3:55pm.

Submitted by RoaneBooster on January 6, 2009 - 2:19pm.

... In fact I don't think I ever have done this. But...

Fairly toward the bottom of the "Discussions" column in the 2nd column from the right margin of this website is a link to WC's own personal blogsite.


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Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 6, 2009 - 2:10pm.

The EPA water test data reports show increased levels of Thallium. Here's the general info:


Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 6, 2009 - 10:10am.

From Mayor Beets office:

Hi Mayor Beets,

Here is the website: Link...

The data reports are named: air monitoring summary.pdf?
potable water sampling summary.pdf
soil and ash sampling summary.pdf
surface water sampling summary.pdf

Dawn Harris Young
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Region 4
Office of External Affairs, Media Relations
phone (404)562-8421
fax (404)562-8335


Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 5, 2009 - 8:45pm.

Best advice yet comes form an Exxon disaster survivor:


Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 5, 2009 - 8:29pm.

From NOAA:



Submitted by WhitesCreek on January 5, 2009 - 8:20pm.


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